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Mark

05/11/04
Microsoft has just released a critical update for Windows XP (and Server 2003) today. There is a vulnerability in the "Help and Support" feature that could allow a hacker to gain control of your computer. The update corrects that flaw.

We've recently witnessed a virus outbreak merely two weeks after the latest Windows critical updates came out, so please get this latest update ASAP.

snowman

05/12/04
Aww it's not for 98.

I'm feeling left out.

Mark

05/13/04
You should feel left out !! Hackers don't even want to attack 98 anymore... (well, except maybe for the creator of the original Sasser worm ; that virus is able to seriously cripple 98/95 machines, although they are not official "targets"... feel any better now ??!!)
Frank

05/13/04
Where's the data on the sasser effect on 98/95?
I've looked around and everything I see says 98 not at risk.

What are the symptoms?

mikeyb

05/13/04
As far as im aware 'all' varients of Sasser can only affect 2000 and XP due to a microsoft vunribility LSASS 'Local Security Authority Subsystem Service' (which can now be patched) the older OS's like 98 and 95 etc do not have this security hole and as such are not affected.

the removal tool that has been released by microsoft will only work on 2000 and XP as they are the OS's that can be infected, if you run it on any other OS you will be notified that the tool will not be compatable with your OS.

to test your OS you can use this link
http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/sasser.asp
click on the Button to TEST YOUR PC. accept the activex download from microsoft and it will check your machine, it will also remove the sasser and its varients if discovered.

(Note activex is only available in IE browsers. for those of you using alternative browsers like firefox, you will need to download the exe file direct from microsoft).
heres the link
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=76C6DE7E-1B6B-4FC3-90D4-9FA42D14CC17&displaylang=en

I hope this clears things up.

Mikeyb

Mark

05/13/04
Ok-ok...

From Symantec :

"The W32.Sasser family of worms can run on (but not infect) Windows 95/98/Me computers. Although these operating systems cannot be infected, they can still be used to infect vulnerable systems that they are able to connect to. In this case, the worm will waste a lot of resources so that programs cannot run properly, including our removal tool. (On Windows 95/98/Me computers, the tool should be run in Safe mode.)"

http://tinyurl.com/3d3zg

Strange, isn't it ?...

mikeyb

05/14/04
I stand corrected, appologies Mark!
Mark

05/14/04
That's ok Mike... I can understand why Frank was inquisitive ; I should have provided a link immediately.
Mark

05/14/04
Funny how Symantec seem to be the only ones addressing this issue. We have yet to encounter a victim presenting with those symptoms, but it's posible we may see one in the next little while.

I had documented this on the forum, in a thread dated May 6 though (trying to redeem myself here !!). But I hadn't provided a link there either..:-(

http://www.newbie.org/help/messages/23490.html

I'll be more thourough next time I jump on 98 ;-)

Frank

05/14/04
Mostly trying to make sure the machines under my care are more or less safe.

I would like to avoid Windows updates on the old 98 machines because I know along the line in the "update" path that microsoft introduced some volunerabilities that were not in the CD shipped win98se. They later fixed them along the upgrade, but did they? muuahhhaahhhaa. Just as soon stay out of the radar and keep MS out of the old machine. I know the regretted not muching up 98 more with extra hooks for calling home.

How do I know this?

I have a supposed "final" win98se from my MS Developers CDs. When I install that on a new computer the hook up to the internet there is Zero, none, zip, zilche attempts to call home by the OS. Zero.

When a local computer company installed the Win98se they have there is a bunch of attempts to call home. Obviously MS redid the "final" win98se to include hooks for calling home.

Frank

05/14/04
I'm still curious about the "running on, but not infected."

I am guessing this means that someone would have to activate a worm file from an incoming email attachment or perhaps P2P.

If by "can't infect" they mean the worm can not sneak in through the internet connection then attachment or trojan infection would be the only way.

Mark

05/14/04
Test Machine anyone ??

Kidding... I think...

snowman

05/14/04
I don't understand that symantec statement at all.

It just doesn't make sense.
( think a geek wrote it?)

I know with msblast, a similar worm, microsoft now claims you can be affected without being infected.

This due to the worms repeated attempts to get in.
Coupled with Steve Gibson's claims that the patches may only be partially effective, as well the fact that a firewall stops it cold, I can at least grasp that.

But this I don't understand.
Running 98 I cannot be infected. OK.

Maybe, without a firewall. the repeated hammering could create some problems for me. OK

But how ,if I 'm not infected, can I infect other system? With what?

Ah, bit of a light bulb. Let's see.

"they can still be used to infect vulnerable systems that they are able to connect to"

Key words "vulnerable systems"

Meaning if I am the lone 98 machine on a network of XP machines, I might be able to pass it along to those XP machines that are not patched? ?

Is that what symantec means?

I might have problems with 98 if I also have a
vulnerable XP machine connected to mine ?

Vulnerable meaning no firewall. no patch , no anti virus?

That's the only way it makes sense.

Mark

05/14/04
That's exactly how I read it... Geek ? Yup...
Gary
garyg8@dpc.net
06/27/04
Found the elusive hpgreg32.dll.
go to the following site:

http://dynfiles.no-ip.info/htmfiles/dll-h02.htm

Happy days are here again

Anti-Virus: Norton
Browser: IE
Firewall: D-Link Router
OS: WinME


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